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William Lear is one of the most outspoken men in the aviation industry.

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The president of Lear incorporated a phantom company that manufactures electronic equipment for airfats.

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Mr. Lear, have you ever seen an unidentified flying object from a distance just place?

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One night we were going out to Palm Springs, Manifep, we were on our way to Bogartau, Columbia,

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and I had an altitude of about 11,000 feet and my pilot, Hal Herman, was flying at the time.

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I was setting up this profile and he pointed out one of these devices in the air,

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of course I thought he was kidding but I saw it at the same time.

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He pointed it out to me and it was an object that went from about over Palm Springs,

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it looked like zero point, not at the Palm Springs, it was very high-rated space.

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Would you describe it a little further, what did it look like?

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It's a very nebulous thing to try to describe an object that we saw but it was a bright object,

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it was a characteristic greenish, blueish sort of ethereal light about it.

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What do you think it was?

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Well I think it was a...

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Mr. Pryce, I think we've been seeing her reading about it, hearing about it, it's reported a lot of

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conflagues, but it could readily be from another planet.

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I know that you can automatically push yourself in the limit,

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take courage to believe such a thing, but I think it's been enough, people with substance source

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reported such things that I don't think any longer that you can completely discredit their possibility

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of there being visitations from another planet.

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I think we're pretty...

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We think that out of the millions of galaxies and the literally hundreds of millions of possible worlds

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that could exist, that there's only one world that could exist and we belong such as ourselves,

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I think possibly they think come from there.

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Would you have to guess that these are the same sort of things as are being described

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or allegedly seen in the current outbreak of signings?

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I believe so and I don't believe this is anything new.

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I think that the signings have been pretty well established back as much as 300-400 years ago

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and the efficiency of all that means it's coming from a much older intellectual society than we have in existence today.

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Now I'm going to take advantage of your long experience in the technical field of aviation.

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How would you explain the tremendous speed and the strange maneuverings of the signings?

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Well, certainly they don't operate on any of their propulsion or the aerodynamic principles of our present aircraft

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because if they did, well they couldn't do the apparent things that they say that they do which is last

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and straight down, take off, straight up and maneuver at tremendous speeds forward

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to then immediately change their course, move at right angles with apparently no acceleration effect.

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But what kind of power might they have?

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Well, it would have to be something that's beyond our present knowledge of mechanics and physics at the present time

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but that's not entirely impossible. It could have been figured out by an older and, as I say, more intellectual society

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than we have in existence today.

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I know that it could be an anti-gravitational device.

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Anti-gravitational? That sounds like something out of Buck Rogers.

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What is anti-gravity?

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Well, we can't any longer look down our nose as things have come out of our garage.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, it's, after all, we have a gravitational thing.

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When we call gravity, we don't know what it is.

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I think a Einstein had probably lived a few years longer than he was right on the verge of at least evolving a formula

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that would have at least allowed us to describe gravity.

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And, of course, the gravity is the force, it's a very weak force, but because of the preponderance of the size

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from which it emanates, for instance, to give you an idea, please, it takes the whole earth

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in order to develop those things with a small object that I can hold in my hand before it's a one-house.

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Well, this is a rather weak force, but nevertheless, it's a real force that's hard for us to understand, gravity,

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because so far we haven't been able to create gravity as we can take magnetic forces,

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and electrostatic forces, and things of that kind.

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But nevertheless, we know it exists, and we don't believe it.

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Just jump on with something.